Monday, January 25, 2010

Jan.24 2010 Topic "Supersize Me? Avatar Size in SL Role Play"

On Sunday, January 24, the Role Play Nexus hosted an event entitled, "Supersize Me? Avatar Size in SL Role Play", consisting of a demonstration by Cursa Charisma, a talk by Baroun Tardis, and an open discussion.

Attending were:
Allen Kerensky
Anastasia Horngold
Baroun Tardis
Brooke Rhea
Cody Winterwolf
Cursa Charisma
Heihachi Nakamura
Kermudgeon Baar
Kontessa Frostbite
Odile Mistwood
Pocahontas Bigboots
Reiko Soyinka
Svetlana Pleides

[2010/01/24 16:01] Cursa Charisma: OK
[2010/01/24 16:01] Cursa Charisma: We'll do the demo up front then
[2010/01/24 16:01] Pocahontas Bigboots: they hair feathers
[2010/01/24 16:01] Cursa Charisma: Show our examples and then ask everyone to test himself
[2010/01/24 16:02] Cursa Charisma: The gray cylinder to the left of the "How tall is your avatar?" gives the details in text
[2010/01/24 16:02] Top Room Sensor v1.02: Anastasia Horngold has entered detection range of Top Room Sensor 2.
[2010/01/24 16:02] Cursa Charisma: Anastasia, welcome!
[2010/01/24 16:02] Cody Winterwolf: Hey Ana
[2010/01/24 16:03] Anastasia Horngold: hello Cursa!
[2010/01/24 16:03] Anastasia Horngold: Hi Cody!
[2010/01/24 16:04] Anastasia Horngold: Ah, now I can see you all
[2010/01/24 16:04] Cursa Charisma: (to Poca and 'Tasia) Have you ladies met?
[2010/01/24 16:04] SimStream Radio (Cursa version 100119): Now playing movie soundtrack selections
[2010/01/24 16:04] Anastasia Horngold: Haven't had the pleasure
[2010/01/24 16:04] Anastasia Horngold: Nice to meet you
[2010/01/24 16:04] Pocahontas Bigboots: no
[2010/01/24 16:04] Pocahontas Bigboots: smiles
[2010/01/24 16:05] Pocahontas Bigboots: nice to meet you too
[2010/01/24 16:05] Cursa Charisma: Poca's helping our opening demonstration today
[2010/01/24 16:05] Cursa Charisma: With her Na'vi outfit, hehe
[2010/01/24 16:05] Cody Winterwolf smiles.
[2010/01/24 16:05] Cursa Charisma reminds self to actually take pictures today
[2010/01/24 16:05] Anastasia Horngold: Oh, I thought there was something familiar about it!
[2010/01/24 16:05] Anastasia Horngold: Very nice look.
[2010/01/24 16:05] Pocahontas Bigboots: Giggle......
[2010/01/24 16:05] Cursa Charisma: Yokoso, Reiko
[2010/01/24 16:05] Top Room Sensor v1.02: Reiko Soyinka has entered detection range of Top Room Sensor 2.
[2010/01/24 16:05] Cody Winterwolf: Hey Reiku.
[2010/01/24 16:06] Pocahontas Bigboots: thank you.... bougth it then got bizzy in other RP... so any chance to wear it:D
[2010/01/24 16:06] Cursa Charisma: No, Cody, she didn't say, "Any chance to get bizzy"
[2010/01/24 16:06] Cursa Charisma winks
[2010/01/24 16:06] Cody Winterwolf: LOL
[2010/01/24 16:06] Pocahontas Bigboots: Hehe, Thats So... Funny
[2010/01/24 16:06] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'
[2010/01/24 16:06] Pocahontas Bigboots: oh hush cursa
[2010/01/24 16:06] Pocahontas Bigboots: dang it
[2010/01/24 16:06] Cody Winterwolf shrugs and grins.
[2010/01/24 16:06] Cursa Charisma smiles broadly
[2010/01/24 16:06] Pocahontas Bigboots: i cant find that getsure to turn it OFF!
[2010/01/24 16:07] Cursa Charisma: Baroun has IMed and will be with us shortly
[2010/01/24 16:07] Cursa Charisma: I did not list the event publicly this time
[2010/01/24 16:07] Anastasia Horngold: brb in a minute
[2010/01/24 16:07] Reiko Soyinka: Wise
[2010/01/24 16:07] Cursa Charisma: kk
[2010/01/24 16:07] Cursa Charisma: hb
[2010/01/24 16:07] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'.
[2010/01/24 16:07] Cody Winterwolf: HB
[2010/01/24 16:08] Cursa Charisma: Provided Baroun makes it, I will be on pa-troll
[2010/01/24 16:08] Top Room Sensor v1.02: Baroun Tardis has entered detection range of Top Room Sensor 2.
[2010/01/24 16:08] Baroun Tardis: Well
[2010/01/24 16:08] Cursa Charisma: And here is the man of the hour himself
[2010/01/24 16:08] Baroun Tardis: Sorry to be runing late
[2010/01/24 16:08] Cody Winterwolf: Howdy
[2010/01/24 16:08] Cursa Charisma: Quite alright
[2010/01/24 16:08] Baroun Tardis: Man of he hour, but off the top of the hour
[2010/01/24 16:08] Baroun Tardis laughs
[2010/01/24 16:09] Baroun Tardis strips off his gloves and jacket
[2010/01/24 16:09] Baroun Tardis: Right
[2010/01/24 16:09] Baroun Tardis: So I don't mean to be short with anyone...
[2010/01/24 16:10] Baroun Tardis: and in boots, I'm sitting at right on 6 feet, as ya'll can see
[2010/01/24 16:10] Cursa Charisma: Aah!
[2010/01/24 16:10] Cursa Charisma: *shrieks*
[2010/01/24 16:10] Baroun Tardis: but you'd be amazed at the number of times people visit and say, "Little Man"
[2010/01/24 16:10] Baroun Tardis grins
[2010/01/24 16:10] Cursa Charisma: Well, let's begin
[2010/01/24 16:10] Cursa Charisma: Welcome to the Nexus, everyone
[2010/01/24 16:10] Cursa Charisma: Today's discussion will be on avatar height in SL RP
[2010/01/24 16:11] Anastasia Horngold: (back)
[2010/01/24 16:11] Cursa Charisma: Baroun Tardis, creator of the HTCS, will be giving us some opening remarks, and at his discretion, either before or after those, we can do our little demonstration
[2010/01/24 16:11] Reiko Soyinka grins
[2010/01/24 16:11] Baroun Tardis: Oooh! Demonstrations!
[2010/01/24 16:11] Baroun Tardis grins
[2010/01/24 16:11] Cody Winterwolf: Cool.
[2010/01/24 16:11] Baroun Tardis: Well...
[2010/01/24 16:12] Cursa Charisma: OK, Poca, if you'd like to come over here with me, we can do the first part of the demo
[2010/01/24 16:12] Cursa Charisma: OK everyone, let's go around and ask each of you...
[2010/01/24 16:12] Cursa Charisma: How tall (in feet or meters) is Poca, and how tall is Cursa?
[2010/01/24 16:12] Cursa Charisma: Anastasia, you first
[2010/01/24 16:13] Anastasia Horngold: Well, I think I already know the approximate answer--insider information
[2010/01/24 16:13] Cursa Charisma: Ah
[2010/01/24 16:13] Anastasia Horngold: So I could wait...
[2010/01/24 16:13] Cursa Charisma: Well, how about looking and trying to make a "fresh" guess? OK, let's start with Reiko then
[2010/01/24 16:13] Reiko Soyinka: 5'5" and 7'8"
[2010/01/24 16:13] Baroun Tardis: lol
[2010/01/24 16:14] Cursa Charisma: Thank you, Reiko. I think many, if not most people in SL would make similar estimates
[2010/01/24 16:14] Cursa Charisma: Baroun, your turn, hehe
[2010/01/24 16:14] Baroun Tardis: I'd say you're just shy of six foot, and she's pushing nine
[2010/01/24 16:14] Cursa Charisma nods
[2010/01/24 16:14] Cursa Charisma: OK
[2010/01/24 16:14] Cursa Charisma: Cody?
[2010/01/24 16:14] Cody Winterwolf: I have to say 6' and about 8'
[2010/01/24 16:14] Pocahontas Bigboots stands up on her tips toes
[2010/01/24 16:15] Baroun Tardis chuckles
[2010/01/24 16:15] Cursa Charisma: Notice how men try to anticipate the "trick", hehe?
[2010/01/24 16:15] Cody Winterwolf: Hehehehe
[2010/01/24 16:15] Cursa Charisma: So, Anastasia, what does your inside info tell you?
[2010/01/24 16:15] Anastasia Horngold: I'd heard that Cursa was about 6', so I would have guessed about 9 for Poca
[2010/01/24 16:16] Cursa Charisma: OK, full disclosure: the last time you saw Cursa, he was a different height from now
[2010/01/24 16:16] Cursa Charisma: Explanation later if anyone cares
[2010/01/24 16:16] Anastasia Horngold slaps herself on the forehead.
[2010/01/24 16:16] Cody Winterwolf: Hehehehe
[2010/01/24 16:17] Cursa Charisma: So take a fresh look, Anastasia
[2010/01/24 16:17] Cursa Charisma grins
[2010/01/24 16:17] Pocahontas Bigboots rest her hand on Cursas head
[2010/01/24 16:17] Cody Winterwolf chuckles as Poka does that.
[2010/01/24 16:17] Baroun Tardis whispers, "... will call him mini-cursa..."
[2010/01/24 16:17] Cursa Charisma tries to control his eyes flicking directly to his left at Poca's... torso
[2010/01/24 16:18] Anastasia Horngold: It's really hard. Cursa still looks "short" but it's in the context of being next to someone much taller. Context is always the issue.
[2010/01/24 16:18] Cursa Charisma: Yes!
[2010/01/24 16:18] Cursa Charisma: That will be good to discuss later
[2010/01/24 16:18] Cursa Charisma: Take a stab for now
[2010/01/24 16:18] Cursa Charisma grins
[2010/01/24 16:19] Anastasia Horngold tries to rez a prim for reference and fails.
[2010/01/24 16:19] Cursa Charisma: Just a wild guess, and we'll go verify
[2010/01/24 16:19] Cursa Charisma winks
[2010/01/24 16:19] Anastasia Horngold: nope, can't guess
[2010/01/24 16:20] Anastasia Horngold: It's all relative
[2010/01/24 16:20] Cursa Charisma: OK
[2010/01/24 16:20] Cursa Charisma: Let's go compare to something absolute
[2010/01/24 16:20] Pocahontas Bigboots gave you Snapshot : Falcons Landing and RP Nexus, Mul (63, 218, 1002).
[2010/01/24 16:20] Cody Winterwolf: Ok.
[2010/01/24 16:20] Cursa Charisma: Behind us here you see some prims
[2010/01/24 16:21] Cursa Charisma: They are exactly the length indicated by the floating text above them
[2010/01/24 16:21] Cursa Charisma: Lengths*
[2010/01/24 16:21] Reiko Soyinka: Now, that is cool!
[2010/01/24 16:21] Baroun Tardis: yeah, it's a nice display
[2010/01/24 16:21] Cursa Charisma: This cylinder behind me, when touched, will report in text on the "prim height" of the avatar touching it
[2010/01/24 16:22] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Anastasia Horngold is 2.083516 m (6 ft. 10in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 16:22] Cody Winterwolf: Wow...
[2010/01/24 16:22] Cursa Charisma: If you or your camera is close enough to read the floating text, you can see how tall Poca and Cursa actually are
[2010/01/24 16:22] Cursa Charisma: Please come on over and compare your av to the measuring sticks
[2010/01/24 16:23] Reiko Soyinka: Wow Poca, my Na'vi would dwarf yours.
[2010/01/24 16:23] Baroun Tardis: All of us?
[2010/01/24 16:23] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'
[2010/01/24 16:23] Open Discussion Nov. 22, '09: Pocahontas Bigboots, here is the transcript of this Nexus talk
[2010/01/24 16:23] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'.
[2010/01/24 16:23] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'
[2010/01/24 16:23] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'.
[2010/01/24 16:23] Pocahontas Bigboots: my sliders are maxed out...
[2010/01/24 16:23] Cursa Charisma: I used one of those "height meters" that go around when I first made Cursa's shape
[2010/01/24 16:23] Anastasia Horngold kicks off her red leather platforms.
[2010/01/24 16:23] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Reiko Soyinka is 1.937058 m (6 ft. 4in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 16:23] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Baroun Tardis is 2.043043 m (6 ft. 8in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 16:23] Baroun Tardis: These are tall boots
[2010/01/24 16:23] Pocahontas Bigboots: but i created this from a very peite shape
[2010/01/24 16:23] Cursa Charisma: It told me I had mean adult US male height (1.75m, 5'9")
[2010/01/24 16:24] Cursa Charisma: As it turns out, that meter was inaccurate
[2010/01/24 16:24] Reiko Soyinka: My boots add 5 inches...need that for these pants.
[2010/01/24 16:24] Cody Winterwolf: Cody'd supposed to be 6'8".
[2010/01/24 16:24] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Baroun Tardis is 1.939107 m (6 ft. 4in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 16:24] Cursa Charisma: Cursa was, until yesterday, actually 6'3"
[2010/01/24 16:24] Baroun Tardis sighs
[2010/01/24 16:24] Cursa Charisma: That meter was adding 7" to everybody's height
[2010/01/24 16:24] Cursa Charisma: Subtracting, sorry
[2010/01/24 16:25] Cursa Charisma kicks self
[2010/01/24 16:25] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Anastasia Horngold is 1.975710 m (6 ft. 5in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 16:25] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'
[2010/01/24 16:25] Cursa Charisma: I think all of you here have had occasion to see Cursa in rp environments and be considered "short" or "young"
[2010/01/24 16:25] Top Room Sensor v1.02: Kontessa Frostbite has entered detection range of Top Room Sensor 2.
[2010/01/24 16:25] Cursa Charisma: Kontessa, welcome!
[2010/01/24 16:26] Reiko Soyinka: Yes, knew about that...on my appearance, it says I'm 5.5...while a prim measure always puts me at 5.11
[2010/01/24 16:26] Cursa Charisma: Sister Kontessa!
[2010/01/24 16:26] Anastasia Horngold: Hello
[2010/01/24 16:26] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'.
[2010/01/24 16:26] Cursa Charisma: That's a big nun
[2010/01/24 16:26] Kontessa Frostbite grins
[2010/01/24 16:26] Baroun Tardis: She's moved from "nun" to "more"
[2010/01/24 16:26] Baroun Tardis winks at Kontessa
[2010/01/24 16:26] Cursa Charisma laughs
[2010/01/24 16:26] Cody Winterwolf: Hehehehe.
[2010/01/24 16:26] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Cursa Charisma is 1.784447 m (5 ft. 10in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 16:26] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'
[2010/01/24 16:26] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Cody Winterwolf is 2.023313 m (6 ft. 7in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 16:27] Anastasia Horngold: More is Less
[2010/01/24 16:27] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Pocahontas Bigboots is 2.331301 m (7 ft. 7in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 16:27] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'.
[2010/01/24 16:27] Cursa Charisma: So Cursa is now US average (mean) adult male height
[2010/01/24 16:27] Cody Winterwolf: I'm close to the right height for Cody.
[2010/01/24 16:28] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Reiko Soyinka is 1.937058 m (6 ft. 4in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 16:28] Anastasia Horngold: Ana should be more like 5'10. I keep shrinking a bit at a time, but I'm not there yet.
[2010/01/24 16:28] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'
[2010/01/24 16:28] Top Room Sensor v1.02: Allen Kerensky has entered detection range of Top Room Sensor 2.
[2010/01/24 16:28] Cursa Charisma: In future, please feel free to use Cursa as a "living yardstick"; males taller than he is are US tall, and those shorter are US short
[2010/01/24 16:28] Cursa Charisma grins
[2010/01/24 16:28] Cursa Charisma: Welcome, Allen!
[2010/01/24 16:28] Kontessa Frostbite smiles
[2010/01/24 16:29] Anastasia Horngold: Ana is "35" in appearance. Is there an accurate method of converting?
[2010/01/24 16:29] Cody Winterwolf: The poles work prety good.
[2010/01/24 16:29] Cursa Charisma: And the demonstration is concluded. Feel free to use the measuring sticks and prim height meter here at your leisure
[2010/01/24 16:29] Reiko Soyinka: For men, Cursa...
[2010/01/24 16:29] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Baroun Tardis is 1.939107 m (6 ft. 4in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 16:29] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Pocahontas Bigboots is 1.833848 m (6 ft. 0in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 16:29] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'.
[2010/01/24 16:29] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Anastasia Horngold is 1.889308 m (6 ft. 2in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 16:29] Cursa Charisma: Yes, Reiko. If you would like to make your avatar a living yardstick for women, that would be great for the folks at Al Raqis
[2010/01/24 16:29] Kontessa Frostbite is a product of superior breeding
[2010/01/24 16:29] Kontessa Frostbite grins
[2010/01/24 16:29] Anastasia Horngold: Down to "25" now--and still 6'2"!!
[2010/01/24 16:30] Cursa Charisma: Mein Gott, Kontessa!
[2010/01/24 16:30] Reiko Soyinka: No, I'm supposed to be tall.
[2010/01/24 16:30] Cursa Charisma: Body/Size is not the only slider that affects avatar height
[2010/01/24 16:30] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Anastasia Horngold is 1.832149 m (6 ft. 0in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 16:30] Baroun Tardis: I think it takes a bit for the server to update the bounding box
[2010/01/24 16:30] Anastasia Horngold: oh yes?
[2010/01/24 16:30] Reiko Soyinka: as it is, my second in command dwarfs me.
[2010/01/24 16:30] Anastasia Horngold: I'm down to "10" now and still 6'0"
[2010/01/24 16:30] Kontessa Frostbite grins at Cursa
[2010/01/24 16:30] Cursa Charisma: If you're listening to the music stream, I hope you are also reminded of Weird Al
[2010/01/24 16:31] Pocahontas Bigboots: Giggle......
[2010/01/24 16:31] Cody Winterwolf: Heheheh
[2010/01/24 16:31] Reiko Soyinka: Fly for a WhiteGuy
[2010/01/24 16:31] Anastasia Horngold: Pocahontas, how you've changed!
[2010/01/24 16:31] Cursa Charisma: Amish Paradise - great video
[2010/01/24 16:31] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Anastasia Horngold is 1.832149 m (6 ft. 0in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 16:31] Pocahontas Bigboots gets to her human apperance and waves good by .... then bounces off shadow boxing
[2010/01/24 16:31] Pocahontas Bigboots: gotta got kick the white mans ass
[2010/01/24 16:31] Baroun Tardis: lol
[2010/01/24 16:31] Cody Winterwolf: Take it easy Poka
[2010/01/24 16:31] Kontessa Frostbite laughs
[2010/01/24 16:32] Cursa Charisma: Peace, Poca - through strength
[2010/01/24 16:32] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Anastasia Horngold is 1.774990 m (5 ft. 9in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 16:32] Cody Winterwolf: Heheheh
[2010/01/24 16:32] Anastasia Horngold: OK, now I'm down to "0" height and am 5"9
[2010/01/24 16:32] Pocahontas Bigboots: wish i could stay... but the people need me:P
[2010/01/24 16:32] Pocahontas Bigboots: o-s-da sv-no-i (Good night)
[2010/01/24 16:32] Reiko Soyinka bows to the genius who is Allen.
[2010/01/24 16:32] Cursa Charisma: Qapla!
[2010/01/24 16:32] Allen Kerensky: http://lslwiki.net/lslwiki/wakka.php?wakka=llGetAgentSize
[2010/01/24 16:32] Cursa Charisma: Alright, Baroun, over to you
[2010/01/24 16:32] Top Room Sensor v1.02: Pocahontas Bigboots no longer detected in range of Top Room Sensor 2.
[2010/01/24 16:32] Allen Kerensky: hellos
[2010/01/24 16:32] Baroun Tardis waves to the crowd
[2010/01/24 16:32] Cody Winterwolf: Howdy
[2010/01/24 16:33] Baroun Tardis: Down here!
[2010/01/24 16:33] Baroun Tardis laughs
[2010/01/24 16:33] No room to sit here, try another spot.
[2010/01/24 16:33] Kontessa Frostbite thinks of Baroun's favorite quote about hieght and giggles softly to herself
[2010/01/24 16:33] Baroun Tardis: I'm one of those funny people with a strong personal self-image of my body -- so when I made Baroun, I worked very hard to make him look like RL me
[2010/01/24 16:33] Baroun Tardis shrugs
[2010/01/24 16:33] Baroun Tardis: more comfortable that way
[2010/01/24 16:34] Baroun Tardis: and very handly when I've met SL folks RL - they recognize me right away
[2010/01/24 16:34] Kontessa Frostbite nods and he is compgy
[2010/01/24 16:34] Kontessa Frostbite: comfy even
[2010/01/24 16:34] Baroun Tardis: although, I gotta say, if Poca looks like that RL, she's got me beat for "ease of recognition"
[2010/01/24 16:34] Cursa Charisma grins
[2010/01/24 16:34] Cody Winterwolf: Hehehe
[2010/01/24 16:34] Baroun Tardis: My SL RP time cycles between Sci-Fi and Gor...
[2010/01/24 16:35] Baroun Tardis: Which has created some unusual sityuations
[2010/01/24 16:35] Top Room Sensor v1.02: Odile Mistwood has entered detection range of Top Room Sensor 2.
[2010/01/24 16:35] Cursa Charisma: Welcome, Odile
[2010/01/24 16:35] Baroun Tardis: Cursa mentioned the older "how tal is your Av" is 7 inches off
[2010/01/24 16:35] Cody Winterwolf: Hey there
[2010/01/24 16:35] Baroun Tardis: So I _thought_ I was 5'9"...
[2010/01/24 16:35] Baroun Tardis: and built spacecraft appropriately
[2010/01/24 16:35] Kontessa Frostbite grins
[2010/01/24 16:35] Reiko Soyinka: hehehehe
[2010/01/24 16:35] Baroun Tardis: During SBA's "Iron Shipbuilder" competition - the judges could not get throught the door of the shuttle I built
[2010/01/24 16:35] Allen Kerensky grins remember Teetop complaining about fitting in the Highport airlock
[2010/01/24 16:35] Baroun Tardis looks very embarassed
[2010/01/24 16:36] Cody Winterwolf: Hahaha
[2010/01/24 16:36] Baroun Tardis: Digitgrade legs on a huge canid alien the dude was GI-NOR-MOUS!
[2010/01/24 16:36] Allen Kerensky: did you add a "low bridge" sign over the shuttle lock?
[2010/01/24 16:36] Baroun Tardis: Should have - but I built it with 6'5" clearance
[2010/01/24 16:36] Baroun Tardis: which is more than a real space shuttle
[2010/01/24 16:36] Allen Kerensky: honestly, spacecraft and military vehicles are made for horse jockeys
[2010/01/24 16:37] Baroun Tardis nods to Allen,"And I tend to build realisitc"
[2010/01/24 16:37] Baroun Tardis sighs
[2010/01/24 16:37] Cursa Charisma: Where g forces are relevant, short is good
[2010/01/24 16:37] Allen Kerensky: the cockpit of the Apache AH-64 helicopter is narrower than my shoulders
[2010/01/24 16:37] Baroun Tardis: One thing I've noticed about the big fokls in Sci-Fi -- they like big battle armor, big guns, big energy shields, and huge deployable wings or cyber body parts
[2010/01/24 16:38] Allen Kerensky: the Final Fantasy Effect
[2010/01/24 16:38] Cursa Charisma nods
[2010/01/24 16:38] Cody Winterwolf: Yep
[2010/01/24 16:38] Reiko Soyinka: Japanese anime effect.
[2010/01/24 16:38] Allen Kerensky: my sword is ONLY 14-feet long?
[2010/01/24 16:38] Cursa Charisma nods
[2010/01/24 16:38] Baroun Tardis: This makes them _very_ different from many of the Goreans , who prefer big bugling pectorals, big swords, big hairdo and huge studded leather bracers
[2010/01/24 16:38] Cursa Charisma smiles broadly
[2010/01/24 16:38] Allen Kerensky: Conan Syndrome
[2010/01/24 16:38] Kontessa Frostbite perfers her "swords" to be easier to wear
[2010/01/24 16:39] Baroun Tardis coughs at Kontessa's comment
[2010/01/24 16:39] Reiko Soyinka almost snorts her tea.
[2010/01/24 16:39] Kontessa Frostbite smirks at Baroun
[2010/01/24 16:39] Cursa Charisma: "What is best in life?"
[2010/01/24 16:39] Baroun Tardis: Yes, very much the Conan Syndrome, or the Schwartznegger Syndrom
[2010/01/24 16:39] Cody Winterwolf: Yeah.
[2010/01/24 16:40] Baroun Tardis: This is not limited to the male of the species....
[2010/01/24 16:40] Cursa Charisma smiles broadly
[2010/01/24 16:40] Baroun Tardis: I've run into 8' tall warrior women
[2010/01/24 16:40] Cody Winterwolf nods.
[2010/01/24 16:40] Allen Kerensky: who all turned blue this month
[2010/01/24 16:40] Cursa Charisma: Who hasn't?
[2010/01/24 16:40] Cursa Charisma laughs
[2010/01/24 16:40] Reiko Soyinka: How many of them were played by actual women?
[2010/01/24 16:40] Cursa Charisma: Nice Allen
[2010/01/24 16:40] Anastasia Horngold: lol allen
[2010/01/24 16:40] Cody Winterwolf: Ok... Looking strait into cleavage isn't too bad.
[2010/01/24 16:40] Odile Mistwood: I take photos of them. I have a file called Amazonic Strippers.
[2010/01/24 16:40] Cursa Charisma: Nice, Odile!
[2010/01/24 16:40] Baroun Tardis: and many of the furries are huge as well, even when the species in question is supposed to be small... I remain confused at the concept of 7 foot tall anthro-gerbils
[2010/01/24 16:40] Cursa Charisma: I think Cody wants a copy of that
[2010/01/24 16:40] Allen Kerensky: link?
[2010/01/24 16:40] Cody Winterwolf: Hahahahahah
[2010/01/24 16:40] Cursa Charisma winks
[2010/01/24 16:41] Baroun Tardis: Odie - that commment is useless without sharing
[2010/01/24 16:41] Baroun Tardis laugsh
[2010/01/24 16:41] Kontessa Frostbite nods sagely and says in a asde to Oldie "He perfers 8 feet tall exotic dancs to Warriors however"
[2010/01/24 16:41] Allen Kerensky: i remain confused at the gerbil part - all the rest isn't even gotten to
[2010/01/24 16:41] Baroun Tardis laughs
[2010/01/24 16:41] Odile Mistwood: I'm looking, I'm looking.
[2010/01/24 16:41] Anastasia Horngold: rofl allie
[2010/01/24 16:41] Cursa Charisma laughs
[2010/01/24 16:41] Odile Mistwood laughs.
[2010/01/24 16:41] Cody Winterwolf: Heheheh
[2010/01/24 16:41] Baroun Tardis: I've also noticed that there seems to be a pattern for the personality as well
[2010/01/24 16:41] Allen Kerensky: a Napoleonic drift?
[2010/01/24 16:42] Baroun Tardis: In real life, short people tend to have a bit of Napoleon complex - they are compensating for being the little kid ont he playground
[2010/01/24 16:42] Baroun Tardis: in SL, the huge folks are the ones with that attitude
[2010/01/24 16:42] Kontessa Frostbite giggles and decides to behave for a bit
[2010/01/24 16:42] Cursa Charisma: Arent' many of them the same people?
[2010/01/24 16:42] Baroun Tardis: I'm not attacking anyone here.....
[2010/01/24 16:42] Allen Kerensky: why can I only think of Ian Holm as Napoleon in Time Bandits now
[2010/01/24 16:42] Baroun Tardis: Just saying
[2010/01/24 16:42] Allen Kerensky: "I want to see little things HITTING each other"
[2010/01/24 16:42] Cody Winterwolf: No worries.. In Rl I'm 5'9"
[2010/01/24 16:42] Odile Mistwood: Here's one of the photos: http://www.rletc.com/forum/album.php?albumid=129&pictureid=1885
[2010/01/24 16:42] Baroun Tardis: You're lucky, Allen, because I'm thining of "Bill & Ted"'s Napoleon
[2010/01/24 16:42] Cursa Charisma: Thanks, Odile!
[2010/01/24 16:43] Baroun Tardis: so.... Where does that fit into RP?
[2010/01/24 16:43] Cursa Charisma listens
[2010/01/24 16:43] Allen Kerensky: wow that pic needs to be on Wonder WOman ISland
[2010/01/24 16:43] Anastasia Horngold opens her notebook.
[2010/01/24 16:43] Baroun Tardis: I sometimes feel lost on ships scaled for the giants
[2010/01/24 16:43] Baroun Tardis: and cannot count the number of Goreans who said, "Little Man" when addressing me
[2010/01/24 16:44] Reiko Soyinka: Hmmm, that looks like one of the guy behind the keyboard females.
[2010/01/24 16:44] Baroun Tardis laughs at Reiko
[2010/01/24 16:44] Allen Kerensky: "easier to cut your off from down here... now who's the little man"
[2010/01/24 16:44] Baroun Tardis: ((My brother's tip was "once you break their knees, everyone is the same height when face down on the pavement))
[2010/01/24 16:44] Allen Kerensky: that too
[2010/01/24 16:45] Baroun Tardis: I prefer to keep my Av at a "realistic" height...
[2010/01/24 16:45] Allen Kerensky: which makes you feel like you are in the land of the giants, yeah
[2010/01/24 16:45] Cody Winterwolf: Yep.
[2010/01/24 16:45] Kontessa Frostbite grins at Baroun
[2010/01/24 16:45] Allen Kerensky: especially with the camera float messing up perspective too
[2010/01/24 16:45] Baroun Tardis: even when folks in some sims say, "Goreans are supposed to be tall" -- and I say, "Woman, you're taller than Shaq!!! How's that work?"
[2010/01/24 16:45] Allen Kerensky: lower gravity on Gor?
[2010/01/24 16:46] Reiko Soyinka: hehehehe
[2010/01/24 16:46] Cody Winterwolf: Even at theis height, I got people who say thier only 6' and I have to look up at em.
[2010/01/24 16:46] Allen Kerensky: make a 2m box and lean on it, lady
[2010/01/24 16:46] Baroun Tardis nods,"And then I whip out the 'how tall is your avatar'tool"
[2010/01/24 16:46] Baroun Tardis: people are genuinely shocked
[2010/01/24 16:46] Cody Winterwolf: Yep.
[2010/01/24 16:46] Baroun Tardis: and I think I know where it comes from
[2010/01/24 16:46] Baroun Tardis: when you first edit your Av, day one in SL
[2010/01/24 16:46] Baroun Tardis: there is no perspective
[2010/01/24 16:46] Cursa Charisma nods
[2010/01/24 16:46] Cody Winterwolf: Yeah.
[2010/01/24 16:46] Baroun Tardis: nothing to compare to
[2010/01/24 16:47] Cody Winterwolf: And the heights are set for %
[2010/01/24 16:47] Baroun Tardis: and the sliders are 0-100 --- which is meaningless
[2010/01/24 16:47] Cody Winterwolf: Not for feet or CM
[2010/01/24 16:47] Baroun Tardis nods to Cody
[2010/01/24 16:47] Reiko Soyinka: Right...I set my avi to 50%
[2010/01/24 16:47] Anastasia Horngold: me too--50% sounds so reasonable
[2010/01/24 16:47] Cody Winterwolf: I think I'm set at 39 %
[2010/01/24 16:47] Baroun Tardis: "But these dials go to 11" is a common issue though
[2010/01/24 16:47] Reiko Soyinka: came out at 6'1" with no shoes on.
[2010/01/24 16:47] Anastasia Horngold: I'm at 0% right now, which i don't understand
[2010/01/24 16:48] Baroun Tardis: "If everyone else is 50%... I'll go 52%"
[2010/01/24 16:48] Kontessa Frostbite: gotta love LL
[2010/01/24 16:48] Cursa Charisma nods
[2010/01/24 16:48] Baroun Tardis: "get that little edge"
[2010/01/24 16:48] Allen Kerensky: http://lslwiki.net/lslwiki/wakka.php?wakka=llGetAgentSize
[2010/01/24 16:48] Anastasia Horngold: Cursa, the picture is hilarious
[2010/01/24 16:48] Anastasia Horngold: Love the expressions
[2010/01/24 16:48] Cursa Charisma: Reiko's seen this comparison before
[2010/01/24 16:48] Cursa Charisma: But for the rest of you, this was when Cursa was still 6'3"
[2010/01/24 16:48] Baroun Tardis: Yeah, I can believe it
[2010/01/24 16:49] Baroun Tardis: Well, I've babbled, but I'd like to put a question on the floor --
[2010/01/24 16:49] Reiko Soyinka still scrapes her jaw up off the floor.
[2010/01/24 16:49] Baroun Tardis: Does it matter in RP ?
[2010/01/24 16:49] Baroun Tardis: So long as the _persepective_ looks right
[2010/01/24 16:49] Baroun Tardis: does it matter greatly?
[2010/01/24 16:49] Allen Kerensky: combat RP? yes... if you are the bigger target
[2010/01/24 16:49] Cursa Charisma: Depends on the rp setting, doesn't it?
[2010/01/24 16:49] Baroun Tardis: Obvioulsly, pictures like that, something's wrong
[2010/01/24 16:49] Baroun Tardis: but if everyone is 7'4"... . you don't notice until a realist shows up
[2010/01/24 16:50] Anastasia Horngold: Depend on a lot of things--how realistic is the rp, for one
[2010/01/24 16:50] Cody Winterwolf: Then you have to stop and wonder.
[2010/01/24 16:50] Cursa Charisma: The other fellow in that pic is nine feet - maxed out
[2010/01/24 16:50] Anastasia Horngold: Meters in RP are of course an arbitrary yardstick
[2010/01/24 16:50] Anastasia Horngold: I mean in SL
[2010/01/24 16:50] Baroun Tardis: what was normal in the sim, Cursa?
[2010/01/24 16:50] Allen Kerensky: 6'8" if I remember that convo
[2010/01/24 16:51] Cursa Charisma: Well, mine was the only male avatar under 2m
[2010/01/24 16:51] Kontessa Frostbite laughs
[2010/01/24 16:51] Cursa Charisma: Fully grown Egyptian men were 1.6, 1.7m
[2010/01/24 16:51] Cursa Charisma: The rich ones
[2010/01/24 16:51] Cursa Charisma: With good diet
[2010/01/24 16:51] Reiko Soyinka: The rest were closer to Lex.
[2010/01/24 16:51] Anastasia Horngold: And we all know that's a historical reality....
[2010/01/24 16:51] Allen Kerensky: so, what you need to is a noob pose stand with a scale built in behind it
[2010/01/24 16:51] Kontessa Frostbite: Yes I often run into women who tower over me and I am not that Short here
[2010/01/24 16:52] Baroun Tardis: I really like the scale here
[2010/01/24 16:52] Anastasia Horngold: The problem, to me, is height inflation, where everyone keeps getting taller, plus needing to fit into somewhat standardized building and vehicle sizes
[2010/01/24 16:52] Baroun Tardis: I'd like to see those at Newbie Island
[2010/01/24 16:52] Cody Winterwolf: Yeah
[2010/01/24 16:53] Cursa Charisma: Yes, Anastasia, the SL scale problem is intertwined here
[2010/01/24 16:53] Cursa Charisma: And it's a major problem
[2010/01/24 16:53] Allen Kerensky: there is one on reactiongrid's orientation area
[2010/01/24 16:53] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Anastasia Horngold is 1.882796 m (6 ft. 2in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 16:53] Baroun Tardis: You know, if we all used tiny avs, our sims would effectively be bigger...
[2010/01/24 16:53] Reiko Soyinka: Is it matched to the prims, Allen?
[2010/01/24 16:53] Allen Kerensky: yes
[2010/01/24 16:53] Anastasia Horngold: Good point Baroun!! (laugh)
[2010/01/24 16:53] Allen Kerensky: and I lived ina tiny sim for more than a year
[2010/01/24 16:53] Cursa Charisma: Yes, Baroun, but as you know, building gets insanely hard the smaller you try to go
[2010/01/24 16:53] Allen Kerensky: its great
[2010/01/24 16:54] Baroun Tardis: If I had a 20cm tall avi, it'd evectively be a 2560x2560x40,000 sim
[2010/01/24 16:54] Allen Kerensky: rent a 512 ... as a tiny, its like a 4096
[2010/01/24 16:54] Kontessa Frostbite nods at Cursa and grins
[2010/01/24 16:54] Cody Winterwolf: aND THEN WE'D FEEL LIKE GODZILLA THERE.
[2010/01/24 16:54] Cursa Charisma: This is LL trying to bluff their way around the limits of their infrastructure
[2010/01/24 16:54] Anastasia Horngold: Of course, if you start building small, you have more room, and so you use more prims.....
[2010/01/24 16:54] Cody Winterwolf: ((Sorry.. caplocks))
[2010/01/24 16:54] Cursa Charisma: It was a good effect, Cody
[2010/01/24 16:54] Cursa Charisma grins
[2010/01/24 16:54] Allen Kerensky: (to Cody) the sim owner and I did some godzilla raids on the place
[2010/01/24 16:55] Cody Winterwolf: Hahahahaha
[2010/01/24 16:55] Cody Winterwolf: Thanks.
[2010/01/24 16:55] Baroun Tardis points at Cody and in a bad accept says "Codzilla! Run! Codjiro!"
[2010/01/24 16:55] Cody Winterwolf: LMAO
[2010/01/24 16:55] Baroun Tardis: accent not accept
[2010/01/24 16:55] Baroun Tardis sighs
[2010/01/24 16:55] Cursa Charisma: Is anyone familiar with Etoile Galaxy?
[2010/01/24 16:55] Baroun Tardis shakes his head no
[2010/01/24 16:55] Cody Winterwolf: No
[2010/01/24 16:55] Anastasia Horngold: Attack of the giant killer Cod
[2010/01/24 16:56] Cursa Charisma: They overcome the problem of dogfighting in an interesting way
[2010/01/24 16:56] Cursa Charisma: The ships are very small, under 50cm long
[2010/01/24 16:56] Cursa Charisma: And they are worn as attachments
[2010/01/24 16:56] Cursa Charisma: The avatar is rolled up in an invisible ball behind the ship
[2010/01/24 16:56] Cody Winterwolf: Wow
[2010/01/24 16:56] Allen Kerensky: even smaller than the Tiny Fleet on slapt.me
[2010/01/24 16:56] Cursa Charisma: So the 256m sided square becomes a big enough area to fight in
[2010/01/24 16:56] Baroun Tardis: oh, clever... Taash worked on some mini-ships, about 1-2m long
[2010/01/24 16:57] Baroun Tardis: neat idea
[2010/01/24 16:57] Allen Kerensky: i can smell Baroun's brain thinking of how to add a "nano mode" to HTCS
[2010/01/24 16:57] Cursa Charisma nods
[2010/01/24 16:57] Baroun Tardis laughs at Allen
[2010/01/24 16:57] Cody Winterwolf: Heheheheh
[2010/01/24 16:57] Cursa Charisma: If you're doing video-game stuff, yes
[2010/01/24 16:57] Cursa Charisma: RP is different, IMO
[2010/01/24 16:57] Cursa Charisma grins
[2010/01/24 16:58] Allen Kerensky gave you Squidy Tiananmen Square =>.<=.
[2010/01/24 16:58] Allen Kerensky: a tiny army on the march
[2010/01/24 16:58] Allen Kerensky: the buildings came up to my belly button
[2010/01/24 16:58] Baroun Tardis grins
[2010/01/24 16:58] Cody Winterwolf: Cool.
[2010/01/24 16:58] Anastasia Horngold: funny
[2010/01/24 16:58] Cursa Charisma nods
[2010/01/24 16:59] Allen Kerensky: scale tricks are good for machinima too
[2010/01/24 16:59] Cursa Charisma: Of course
[2010/01/24 16:59] Allen Kerensky: so, for RP, what does scale mean? how you build your sim? alienating newcomers? IC reasons to be certain sizes?
[2010/01/24 16:59] Cursa Charisma: Depends on whether hardcore "realism" is part of your core concept
[2010/01/24 17:00] Allen Kerensky: for recreating LoTR or D&D in SL, its important that halflings not top out at 8' tall
[2010/01/24 17:00] Cursa Charisma: If you have, say, an open sci-fi rp sandbox, then it's not an issue
[2010/01/24 17:00] Baroun Tardis: Allen -- "Time and a halfling"
[2010/01/24 17:00] Cursa Charisma: Right, the question is, what's core to your setting?
[2010/01/24 17:00] Cursa Charisma groans
[2010/01/24 17:00] Cursa Charisma grins
[2010/01/24 17:00] Reiko Soyinka: Except about the 7 foot tall anthro-gerbils.
[2010/01/24 17:00] Anastasia Horngold: Add in the problem of camera height, which means that even "normal" buildings need to have tall ceilings and doors to be comfortable
[2010/01/24 17:00] Allen Kerensky: *shudder*
[2010/01/24 17:01] Baroun Tardis: Camera height is another issue
[2010/01/24 17:01] Cursa Charisma: Right, Anastasia, SL scaling problem again
[2010/01/24 17:01] Cursa Charisma: But related
[2010/01/24 17:01] Baroun Tardis: I think it throws off people's sense of scale
[2010/01/24 17:01] Cursa Charisma: If your avatar's head is near the ceiling...
[2010/01/24 17:01] Anastasia Horngold: yes, or when you have to camera in every time you go into a small room
[2010/01/24 17:01] Cursa Charisma nods
[2010/01/24 17:01] Allen Kerensky: so, is this a problem to solve? a windmill to tilt at?
[2010/01/24 17:01] Reiko Soyinka: A thing to be aware of.
[2010/01/24 17:01] Baroun Tardis: I think it might be a window to be aware of....
[2010/01/24 17:01] Allen Kerensky: are we resolving to ignore SL scale silliness, or tackle it somehow
[2010/01/24 17:02] Reiko Soyinka: brb
[2010/01/24 17:02] Cody Winterwolf: ok
[2010/01/24 17:02] Anastasia Horngold: I would like to put the avatar scale at our sim TP spot
[2010/01/24 17:02] Allen Kerensky: would be funny if Emerald Viewer fixed the scale issue in their constants files
[2010/01/24 17:02] Cursa Charisma nods
[2010/01/24 17:02] Anastasia Horngold: so that incomers would at least get the reminder
[2010/01/24 17:02] Baroun Tardis: When I built the Sierra, I had a pretty defined max external size, and a list of what things inside were supposed to be volume-wise. I cheated, cut the fuel tanks much smaller and used the volume to mkae ceilings higher for the camera
[2010/01/24 17:02] Cursa Charisma nods
[2010/01/24 17:03] Cody Winterwolf: nods
[2010/01/24 17:03] Baroun Tardis: So.. we "adapt"
[2010/01/24 17:03] Cursa Charisma: To the scale problem, yes
[2010/01/24 17:04] Anastasia Horngold: If builders are more aware of scale, they won't create such oversized buildings/furniture, which in turn should somewhat discourage avi height inflation.
[2010/01/24 17:04] Baroun Tardis: Yeah, once they hit their heads on something
[2010/01/24 17:04] Cody Winterwolf nods
[2010/01/24 17:04] Cursa Charisma: But most builders are building to suit their perceived market
[2010/01/24 17:04] Anastasia Horngold: true
[2010/01/24 17:04] Cursa Charisma: So they follow rather than lead
[2010/01/24 17:05] Baroun Tardis: and in many cases, the builders themselves are 7' +
[2010/01/24 17:05] Cursa Charisma nods
[2010/01/24 17:05] Anastasia Horngold: And most don't build multiple sizes.
[2010/01/24 17:05] Cursa Charisma: Right
[2010/01/24 17:05] Reiko Soyinka: I sink about half my furniture into the floors.
[2010/01/24 17:05] Anastasia Horngold: yes! lol
[2010/01/24 17:06] Cody Winterwolf: I seen people do that
[2010/01/24 17:06] Baroun Tardis: just to get it right
[2010/01/24 17:06] Reiko Soyinka: My feet are supposed to rest on the floor.
[2010/01/24 17:06] Allen Kerensky: also have to watch out since SL "floats" you over the ground slightly to simplify collision calculation
[2010/01/24 17:06] Reiko Soyinka: /nod
[2010/01/24 17:06] Anastasia Horngold clears her throat. "My feet are dangling in the air, sitting on this ledge."
[2010/01/24 17:07] Cursa Charisma: Excellent point, Anastasia
[2010/01/24 17:07] Cursa Charisma grins
[2010/01/24 17:07] Baroun Tardis: Welcome to SL :)
[2010/01/24 17:07] Cody Winterwolf: Hehehehehe
[2010/01/24 17:07] Allen Kerensky: Emerald does have a viewer-specific setting to sink you down to the ground visually
[2010/01/24 17:07] Anastasia Horngold: yes, that's a nice feature
[2010/01/24 17:08] Reiko Soyinka: I think I'm going to bring this up to my builder's group.
[2010/01/24 17:08] Baroun Tardis: Something to share, but then you run into an issue
[2010/01/24 17:08] Baroun Tardis: you build "sensible"
[2010/01/24 17:08] Baroun Tardis: and then .... well... the ship construction Judge won't fit
[2010/01/24 17:08] Baroun Tardis sighs
[2010/01/24 17:08] Top Room Sensor v1.02: Brooke Rhea has entered detection range of Top Room Sensor 2.
[2010/01/24 17:08] Anastasia Horngold: Is anyone thinking of trying to address this in more than just their own sim or group?
[2010/01/24 17:08] Cursa Charisma: Welcome, Brooke!
[2010/01/24 17:08] Cody Winterwolf: Hey Brooke
[2010/01/24 17:08] Anastasia Horngold: Hi Brooke
[2010/01/24 17:09] Baroun Tardis: Howdy!
[2010/01/24 17:09] Reiko Soyinka: Well, my builders group should touch on quite a few sims.
[2010/01/24 17:09] Cursa Charisma: What are you thinking of, Anastasia?
[2010/01/24 17:09] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Allen Kerensky is 1.967236 m (6 ft. 5in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 17:09] Brooke Rhea: HI everyne.
[2010/01/24 17:09] Cursa Charisma: The yardstick display over there is free to copy
[2010/01/24 17:09] Brooke Rhea: *everyone
[2010/01/24 17:10] Anastasia Horngold: Just wondering.
[2010/01/24 17:10] Baroun Tardis: oh, yeah!
[2010/01/24 17:10] Anastasia Horngold: I can see ways to encourage people within a sim or RP or group, but SL-wide is probably beyond hope.
[2010/01/24 17:10] Cursa Charisma: Well, you've seen and heard my activist plan - I've made my avatar a living yardstick
[2010/01/24 17:10] Cursa Charisma grins
[2010/01/24 17:10] Cursa Charisma: Yes, leading by example in our own groups is the way, imo
[2010/01/24 17:10] Baroun Tardis: cursa
[2010/01/24 17:10] Baroun Tardis: I can take it, but can't take copy
[2010/01/24 17:10] Anastasia Horngold: true! "Avatars without Borders" !!!
[2010/01/24 17:11] Cursa Charisma: OK, sec
[2010/01/24 17:11] Cursa Charisma: You should now be able to buy it for L$0
[2010/01/24 17:11] Cody Winterwolf: Yeah. Can I get one too?
[2010/01/24 17:11] Cursa Charisma: Feel free
[2010/01/24 17:11] Cody Winterwolf: Cool
[2010/01/24 17:12] Cursa Charisma: It's meant to be freely available, the same as everything here
[2010/01/24 17:12] Reiko Soyinka: Maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing...
[2010/01/24 17:12] Anastasia Horngold: this might be a bit obnoxious, but one could wear a sign when out shopping, for instance, saying "I am 6 feet tall."
[2010/01/24 17:12] Cursa Charisma: The "How tall is your avatar?" display should be buyable for free now
[2010/01/24 17:12] Cursa Charisma: LOL, Anastasia
[2010/01/24 17:13] Cursa Charisma: True activism!
[2010/01/24 17:13] Cursa Charisma: "Fight SL Heightism!"
[2010/01/24 17:13] Allen Kerensky: lol
[2010/01/24 17:13] Allen Kerensky: "That's Heightist!"
[2010/01/24 17:13] Cursa Charisma nods
[2010/01/24 17:13] Cursa Charisma: Yup
[2010/01/24 17:13] Cursa Charisma: Next battle: rightism! (everything's made for right-handed avatars)
[2010/01/24 17:13] Allen Kerensky: so, the Napoleon Crusade begins
[2010/01/24 17:13] Anastasia Horngold: lol
[2010/01/24 17:14] Allen Kerensky: amen Cursa amen
[2010/01/24 17:14] Cursa Charisma: But Allen, the main point here is that avs who *aren't* short are being called little and underage
[2010/01/24 17:14] Cursa Charisma: Have we talked about that last one?
[2010/01/24 17:14] Anastasia Horngold: not yet today
[2010/01/24 17:14] Reiko Soyinka: [17:10] Anastasia Horngold: I can see ways to encourage people within a sim or RP or group, but SL-wide is probably beyond hope.
[2010/01/24 17:14] Reiko Soyinka: I disagree.
[2010/01/24 17:14] Cursa Charisma: People being denied entry because their "child avs" supposedly violate "age play" restrictions?
[2010/01/24 17:15] Cody Winterwolf: And people who looks small get the furry eyeball.
[2010/01/24 17:15] Cursa Charisma waits to hear Reiko's point
[2010/01/24 17:15] Anastasia Horngold: yes, reiko?
[2010/01/24 17:15] Cursa Charisma: As opposed to the Gorean eyeball?
[2010/01/24 17:15] Reiko Soyinka: The US used to be a nation of smokers and drinkers.
[2010/01/24 17:15] Brooke Rhea: Those are the ones that set their height to max Cursa
[2010/01/24 17:15] Allen Kerensky: now we're all fat
[2010/01/24 17:15] Allen Kerensky: because we're not out drinking and smoking
[2010/01/24 17:16] Cursa Charisma grins
[2010/01/24 17:16] Baroun Tardis: Ok, then need some vodka and a good cigar as aprt of a weight loss program
[2010/01/24 17:16] Anastasia Horngold: and we are sitting on our butts playing in SL!
[2010/01/24 17:16] Allen Kerensky: but the point is valid, with time, and constant consistent effort, you can wear down a mountain
[2010/01/24 17:17] Anastasia Horngold: point taken
[2010/01/24 17:17] Cody Winterwolf: True ehnough
[2010/01/24 17:17] Cursa Charisma: Has everyone been to Doomed Ship?
[2010/01/24 17:17] Allen Kerensky: i believe Baroun tells that story from time to time on Splintered Radio - the man and his family harvesting from the valley beyond a mountain
[2010/01/24 17:17] Cody Winterwolf: I have
[2010/01/24 17:17] Reiko Soyinka: No, what is Doomed Ship?
[2010/01/24 17:17] Baroun Tardis: Doomed ?
[2010/01/24 17:17] Cody Winterwolf: Had to shrink myself to the right height.
[2010/01/24 17:18] Cursa Charisma: Yes, Doomed Ship starts off right away telling you about the avatar size thing
[2010/01/24 17:18] Cursa Charisma: Offers free shapes of normal human size
[2010/01/24 17:18] Cursa Charisma: Warns people that oversize avs will not be able to navigate
[2010/01/24 17:18] Baroun Tardis chuckles
[2010/01/24 17:18] Cursa Charisma: And gives out those gray cylinder measuring devices
[2010/01/24 17:18] Allen Kerensky: easy to make a smaller entryway as a simple barrier to navigation
[2010/01/24 17:18] Top Room Sensor v1.02: Heihachi Nakamura has entered detection range of Top Room Sensor 2.
[2010/01/24 17:18] Cursa Charisma: Do you want barriers, or examples and information?
[2010/01/24 17:19] Allen Kerensky: but you do alienate the "can't be bothered with something that nitpicky or silly" crowd
[2010/01/24 17:19] Anastasia Horngold: Depdns on how strictly important size is to the RP
[2010/01/24 17:19] Cursa Charisma: Again, Allen, it depends on what's core to your setting
[2010/01/24 17:19] Cody Winterwolf: Hi Hei
[2010/01/24 17:19] Cursa Charisma: Hey, Hachi
[2010/01/24 17:19] Anastasia Horngold: Or how grouchy everyone has gotten
[2010/01/24 17:19] Cursa Charisma grins
[2010/01/24 17:19] Heihachi Nakamura: ((aw son of a bitch wait a min))
[2010/01/24 17:20] Baroun Tardis: Howdy-Hei
[2010/01/24 17:20] Cursa Charisma: Nice, Baroun
[2010/01/24 17:20] Cursa Charisma grins
[2010/01/24 17:20] Heihachi Nakamura: hi.
[2010/01/24 17:20] Kontessa Frostbite: Is that my Cue to say "Size Does Matter" ?
[2010/01/24 17:20] Cursa Charisma: Thank you, Kontessa
[2010/01/24 17:20] Cursa Charisma smiles broadly
[2010/01/24 17:21] Cody Winterwolf chuckles.
[2010/01/24 17:21] Kontessa Frostbite grins innocently
[2010/01/24 17:22] Allen Kerensky: is the presentation over or did I crash?
[2010/01/24 17:22] Brooke Rhea: I think making nice looking shapes available of decent sizes is one way to help. I know when I went to one sim a while ago everyone was huge ... not making my avt a bit taller meant that I was at everyone's waist. And another I had to make a smaller character than the one I even use now because everyone was small. So I think if you just have most of hte people normal height people will adjust.
[2010/01/24 17:22] Allen Kerensky: ah
[2010/01/24 17:22] Cursa Charisma: So example by core membership?
[2010/01/24 17:23] Heihachi Nakamura: **i'll just show off my main av**
[2010/01/24 17:23] Allen Kerensky: try to set a trend and hope to lead by example?
[2010/01/24 17:23] Reiko Soyinka blinks and thinks of The Incredibles.
[2010/01/24 17:23] Heihachi Nakamura: ((oh fuck off reiko))
[2010/01/24 17:23] Cursa Charisma: Cool it, Hachi
[2010/01/24 17:23] Heihachi Nakamura: No.
[2010/01/24 17:24] Anastasia Horngold: Fantastic skin!
[2010/01/24 17:24] Heihachi Nakamura: This avatar, very important :p
[2010/01/24 17:24] Brooke Rhea: exactly ... if hte core members are a certain way people will probably follow .... and of course as newbies get more knowledge about where to find things they also will adjust. I don't care that I'm 7 feet tall if everyone else is 10 I'm too short.
[2010/01/24 17:25] Cursa Charisma: So it leads into the idea of having several shapes saved as "outfits" for quick change?
[2010/01/24 17:25] Allen Kerensky: but that example seems to be sim or estate specific
[2010/01/24 17:25] Cursa Charisma: "Brooke for Firefly", "Brooke for Avatar", "Brooke for The Shire", and so on?
[2010/01/24 17:25] Cody Winterwolf: Sim owners can enforce heights by using a fwe things. Like the builds and the entry where the palyers start.
[2010/01/24 17:25] Brooke Rhea: I don't think you're going to change SL as a whole
[2010/01/24 17:25] Anastasia Horngold: Getting your core members to adopt a more "normal" size is a good start. However, it's still hard to compare sizes by eye.
[2010/01/24 17:26] Allen Kerensky: well, you tend to have multiple looks and equipment sets for various sims anyway
[2010/01/24 17:26] Brooke Rhea: If you think you are ... then you should start with changing the real world first
[2010/01/24 17:26] Cursa Charisma: Welcome, Kerm!
[2010/01/24 17:26] Top Room Sensor v1.02: Kermudgeon Baar has entered detection range of Top Room Sensor 2.
[2010/01/24 17:26] Cody Winterwolf: Hey Kerm
[2010/01/24 17:26] Kermudgeon Baar: hey
[2010/01/24 17:26] Cursa Charisma: So Kerm, how tall is your avatar?
[2010/01/24 17:26] Kermudgeon Baar: tall
[2010/01/24 17:26] Anastasia Horngold: A friend and I happened to stand really close to each other, which I guess we hadn't done in a while. That's when we realized we were about 2' different in size.
[2010/01/24 17:27] Anastasia Horngold: We hadn't realized.
[2010/01/24 17:27] Baroun Tardis grins,"WHEN DID YOU GROW!! ?? ! ! " (lauging)
[2010/01/24 17:28] Cody Winterwolf: Godizira....!
[2010/01/24 17:28] Kontessa Frostbite looks at his titler and giggles
[2010/01/24 17:28] Kermudgeon Baar smiles
[2010/01/24 17:28] Kontessa Frostbite: Large but it appears cuddly or someone thinks so
[2010/01/24 17:29] Cursa Charisma grins
[2010/01/24 17:29] Allen Kerensky: meow
[2010/01/24 17:29] Kermudgeon Baar: I did a make-over
[2010/01/24 17:29] Cursa Charisma: So Kerm, touch the gray cylinder behind me, please
[2010/01/24 17:29] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Kermudgeon Baar is 2.499239 m (8 ft. 2in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 17:29] Cursa Charisma: Thanks!
[2010/01/24 17:29] Cody Winterwolf: WHoa!
[2010/01/24 17:29] Allen Kerensky: now, how many astronaut and spacefaring characters are here - there are NASA stats on height increase over time in orbit
[2010/01/24 17:30] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Kontessa Frostbite is 1.970725 m (6 ft. 5in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 17:30] Heihachi Nakamura gave you ShinRa Assault Rifle.
[2010/01/24 17:30] Kermudgeon Baar: it ishard to find shoes. let me tell you
[2010/01/24 17:30] Baroun Tardis grins, "I'm not tall - i was spaced that way"
[2010/01/24 17:30] Allen Kerensky: misjump pulled your spine like taffy?
[2010/01/24 17:30] Cody Winterwolf: Hehehehe, no worries Kerm.
[2010/01/24 17:31] Reiko Soyinka: shoes...oh!
[2010/01/24 17:31] Reiko Soyinka: That is where height demonstrates a real problem...
[2010/01/24 17:31] Odile Mistwood: May I try the meter?
[2010/01/24 17:31] Reiko Soyinka: about 90% of womens shoes are size 0...
[2010/01/24 17:31] Cursa Charisma: Please, Odile!
[2010/01/24 17:31] Odile Mistwood: The stand in the center?
[2010/01/24 17:32] Heihachi Nakamura: about 90% of women on sl are size 0 :p
[2010/01/24 17:32] Cursa Charisma: Over by Kerm
[2010/01/24 17:32] Reiko Soyinka: Size 0 feet look strange on me...they look stranger on Odile
[2010/01/24 17:32] Cursa Charisma: The gray cylinder here
[2010/01/24 17:32] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Odile Mistwood is 2.203357 m (7 ft. 2in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 17:32] Heihachi Nakamura has actually been complimented on his startlingly....realistic av :p
[2010/01/24 17:32] Cursa Charisma: Having clothing that doesn't resize is ridiculous, isn't it?
[2010/01/24 17:32] Reiko Soyinka: Hei, we are 0 because we want those shoes.
[2010/01/24 17:32] Allen Kerensky: adn resizer scripts are lag monsters
[2010/01/24 17:33] Allen Kerensky: when people forget to remove them
[2010/01/24 17:33] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Kermudgeon Baar is 2.459227 m (8 ft. 0in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 17:33] Reiko Soyinka: I hate those scripts.
[2010/01/24 17:33] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Heihachi Nakamura is 1.973205 m (6 ft. 5in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 17:33] Cursa Charisma: And if things are just plain moddable, too many noobs will mangle them and then complain to the maker?
[2010/01/24 17:33] Heihachi Nakamura: tall as i am irl, fook yes
[2010/01/24 17:33] Kontessa Frostbite looks at Hei and thinks if he looks that large in RL she hopes he avoids little old ladies in rl or he is scaring them to death
[2010/01/24 17:33] Heihachi Nakamura: ;]
[2010/01/24 17:33] Reiko Soyinka: hehehehehehe
[2010/01/24 17:33] Kermudgeon Baar: i had to mod this lab coat inorder to get the piees to fit
[2010/01/24 17:34] Cursa Charisma nods
[2010/01/24 17:34] Odile Mistwood: Now I'm 7 feet 2, which sounds rather tall, but a lot of women tower over me.
[2010/01/24 17:34] Reiko Soyinka: I mod every article that I wear.
[2010/01/24 17:34] Kontessa Frostbite: hei and Dark Alley = Glock in hand
[2010/01/24 17:34] Heihachi Nakamura: yeah screw it, I am having that FFRP comeback >.<
[2010/01/24 17:34] Cursa Charisma: In SL or the WNBA, yes
[2010/01/24 17:34] Cursa Charisma grins
[2010/01/24 17:34] Heihachi Nakamura: am bored
[2010/01/24 17:34] Baroun Tardis: I need to excuse myself - got a broken script, and a bnch of folks wanting to playwith it
[2010/01/24 17:34] Cursa Charisma: OK, Baroun, thank you *very* much
[2010/01/24 17:34] Baroun Tardis: Ya'll take care, sorry to run
[2010/01/24 17:34] Cursa Charisma: Everyone, a round of applause for Baroun?
[2010/01/24 17:34] Cursa Charisma applauds
[2010/01/24 17:34] Cursa Charisma: Excellent!
[2010/01/24 17:34] Allen Kerensky: thank you very much Baroun!
[2010/01/24 17:35] Baroun Tardis gets all embarassed and runs for it (grin)
[2010/01/24 17:35] Brooke Rhea: Thank you Baroun.
[2010/01/24 17:35] Kontessa Frostbite claps
[2010/01/24 17:35] Kontessa Frostbite: ok Poofing
[2010/01/24 17:35] Top Room Sensor v1.02: Baroun Tardis no longer detected in range of Top Room Sensor 2.
[2010/01/24 17:35] Kermudgeon Baar: *:-.,_,.-:*'´ `*.APPLAUSE!!¸.*´`'*:-.,_,.-:*
[2010/01/24 17:35] Brooke Rhea: thanks for the invite. I should be heading out as well.
[2010/01/24 17:35] Odile Mistwood: I must be going. Goodnight all.
[2010/01/24 17:35] Anastasia Horngold claps
[2010/01/24 17:35] Cursa Charisma: Peace Brooke, Odile
[2010/01/24 17:35] Top Room Sensor v1.02: Odile Mistwood no longer detected in range of Top Room Sensor 2.
[2010/01/24 17:35] Anastasia Horngold: Nice chatting, all
[2010/01/24 17:35] Top Room Sensor v1.02: Brooke Rhea no longer detected in range of Top Room Sensor 2.
[2010/01/24 17:36] Cursa Charisma: Transcript will be available here and on the blog very soon
[2010/01/24 17:36] Cody Winterwolf: Thanks Cursa.
[2010/01/24 17:36] Cursa Charisma: Thanks for coming, Cody
[2010/01/24 17:36] Cody Winterwolf: Take it easy folks.
[2010/01/24 17:36] Cody Winterwolf: No Prob
[2010/01/24 17:36] Heihachi Nakamura: honk honk
[2010/01/24 17:36] Allen Kerensky: yep, just about right for towering over Cursa. gotta love power armor
[2010/01/24 17:36] Top Room Sensor v1.02: Kontessa Frostbite no longer detected in range of Top Room Sensor 2.
[2010/01/24 17:36] Cursa Charisma: The yardstick display is L$0 here, and the measuring cylinder is free at Doomed Ship
[2010/01/24 17:36] Top Room Sensor v1.02: Cody Winterwolf no longer detected in range of Top Room Sensor 2.
[2010/01/24 17:36] Heihachi Nakamura: don't make me put my suit on :p
[2010/01/24 17:36] Reiko Soyinka: You don't look so tall, now.
[2010/01/24 17:36] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Reiko Soyinka is 1.937058 m (6 ft. 4in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 17:37] Cursa Charisma: With Hei, it's the bulk more than the raw height
[2010/01/24 17:37] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Anastasia Horngold is 1.774990 m (5 ft. 9in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 17:37] Cursa Charisma: Anastasia, you're ready to dance with Cursa...
[2010/01/24 17:37] Cursa Charisma winks
[2010/01/24 17:37] Heihachi Nakamura: >:3
[2010/01/24 17:37] Anastasia Horngold dimples. "Any time you like!"
[2010/01/24 17:37] Heihachi Nakamura: can use this like the end of wolfenstein 3D
[2010/01/24 17:37] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'
[2010/01/24 17:37] Kermudgeon Baar: I have a sizer i an give out
[2010/01/24 17:37] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Heihachi Nakamura is 2.623415 m (8 ft. 7in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 17:38] Allen Kerensky: and thanks to Hei for demoing the problem so elequently
[2010/01/24 17:38] Cursa Charisma: Kerm, does it give the same height this one did?
[2010/01/24 17:38] Heihachi Nakamura: god is everybody gonna piss me off tonight.
[2010/01/24 17:38] Reiko Soyinka: Hei, do you turn into a car, too?
[2010/01/24 17:38] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'.
[2010/01/24 17:38] Heihachi Nakamura: what the fuck is wrong with you people.
[2010/01/24 17:38] Kermudgeon Baar: i ant rez here
[2010/01/24 17:38] Frog Hoppers and Satins Friends Group Notice: Satin and Erin live at 6pm
NOTICE:
This is it, just one show today with Satin and Erin........ Satin watched Football all day and Erin .. well.. watched with him (haha)! We always have a blast at Lil Egypt, so come on over and lets party!!
TIME 6pm – 7pm
Dress casual or Egyptian silks
[2010/01/24 17:38] Cursa Charisma: No problem with Hei's demo - it shows that it depends on the sim
[2010/01/24 17:38] Frog Hoppers and Satins Friends Group Notice owned by Erin68 Frog gave you 'LIL EGYPT RESORT LANDING' ( http://slurl.com/secondlife/Fantasie%20SingerIsle/129/127/23 ).
[2010/01/24 17:38] Allen Kerensky: the builders "make it bigger-er" problem
[2010/01/24 17:38] Cursa Charisma: Thanks, Kerm
[2010/01/24 17:38] Kermudgeon Baar: sure
[2010/01/24 17:38] Height detector 1.0.4: Cursa Charisma is 1.613862 m (5 feet 4 inches) tall. (counting your shoes)
[2010/01/24 17:38] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'
[2010/01/24 17:38] Open Discussion Nov. 22, '09: Kermudgeon Baar, here is the transcript of this Nexus talk
[2010/01/24 17:38] Cursa Charisma: See, this is one of the lying ones
[2010/01/24 17:39] Height detector 1.0.4: Heihachi Nakamura is 2.372628 m (7 feet 9 inches) tall. (counting your shoes)
[2010/01/24 17:39] Cursa Charisma: Kerm, that thing is a liar
[2010/01/24 17:39] Height detector 1.0.4: Kermudgeon Baar is 2.224136 m (7 feet 4 inches) tall. (counting your shoes)
[2010/01/24 17:39] Anastasia Horngold: Rez it again?
[2010/01/24 17:39] Cursa Charisma: The cylinder one here is accurate - based on prims
[2010/01/24 17:39] Kermudgeon Baar: ok
[2010/01/24 17:39] Height detector 1.0.4: Anastasia Horngold is 1.702809 m (5 feet 7 inches) tall. (counting your shoes)
[2010/01/24 17:39] Kermudgeon Baar: cool
[2010/01/24 17:39] Height detector 1.0.4: Anastasia Horngold is 1.702809 m (5 feet 7 inches) tall. (counting your shoes)
[2010/01/24 17:39] Kermudgeon Baar: ana is just the right hight
[2010/01/24 17:39] Cursa Charisma: I was misled by one of those for a long time
[2010/01/24 17:39] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Anastasia Horngold is 1.882796 m (6 ft. 2in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 17:39] Top Room Sensor v1.02: Svetlana Pleides has entered detection range of Top Room Sensor 2.
[2010/01/24 17:39] Kermudgeon Baar winks
[2010/01/24 17:39] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'.
[2010/01/24 17:39] Cursa Charisma: Yes, she is
[2010/01/24 17:39] Cursa Charisma smiles broadly
[2010/01/24 17:40] Anastasia Horngold: Yes, 7" difference between those two
[2010/01/24 17:40] Cursa Charisma: Svetka!
[2010/01/24 17:40] Anastasia Horngold smiles.
[2010/01/24 17:40] Svetlana Pleides: Staret!!
[2010/01/24 17:40] Heihachi Nakamura: so then :p
[2010/01/24 17:40] Heihachi Nakamura: oh for fucks sake
[2010/01/24 17:40] Cursa Charisma: Come touch this cylinder
[2010/01/24 17:40] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Kermudgeon Baar is 2.459227 m (8 ft. 0in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 17:40] Height detector 1.0.4: Svetlana Pleides is 1.566323 m (5 feet 2 inches) tall. (counting your shoes)
[2010/01/24 17:40] Heihachi Nakamura: no news on ya lil problem svetlana? :p
[2010/01/24 17:40] Heihachi Nakamura: LITTLE PROBLEM x.X
[2010/01/24 17:40] Cursa Charisma: See, this is the lying one, Svetka
[2010/01/24 17:41] Svetlana Pleides: I am 5 2??????
[2010/01/24 17:41] Cursa Charisma: Nope
[2010/01/24 17:41] Cursa Charisma: But that says you are
[2010/01/24 17:41] Svetlana Pleides: you think?
[2010/01/24 17:41] Height detector 1.0.4: Heihachi Nakamura is 1.784576 m (5 feet 10 inches) tall. (counting your shoes)
[2010/01/24 17:41] Cursa Charisma: Use the measuring prims
[2010/01/24 17:41] Height detector 1.0.4: Reiko Soyinka is 1.751884 m (5 feet 9 inches) tall. (counting your shoes)
[2010/01/24 17:41] Allen Kerensky: the lying ones just use the Linden function without the scale correction
[2010/01/24 17:41] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'
[2010/01/24 17:41] Allen Kerensky: and who here is silly enough to trust lindens these days
[2010/01/24 17:42] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'.
[2010/01/24 17:42] Svetlana Pleides: what scale correction?
[2010/01/24 17:42] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'
[2010/01/24 17:42] Cursa Charisma: Yes, Lying Lindens
[2010/01/24 17:42] Cursa Charisma: Prims don't lie
[2010/01/24 17:42] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'.
[2010/01/24 17:42] Cursa Charisma: That'll be on my t-shirt
[2010/01/24 17:42] Cursa Charisma grins
[2010/01/24 17:42] Allen Kerensky: http://lslwiki.net/lslwiki/wakka.php?wakka=llGetAgentSize
[2010/01/24 17:42] Anastasia Horngold: Oh, I see where it gives the correction factor on that page
[2010/01/24 17:42] Heihachi Nakamura: sorry about me emo outbursts chaps.
[2010/01/24 17:43] Heihachi Nakamura: seem to be genuinely losing it, oocly >.<
[2010/01/24 17:43] Cursa Charisma: Keep it together, Hachi
[2010/01/24 17:43] Svetlana Pleides: what s wron Hei?
[2010/01/24 17:43] Cursa Charisma: And don't listen to the depressing "PLatoon" music on the stream
[2010/01/24 17:43] Allen Kerensky: and get back on the multi-vitamin and omega-3 fish oil
[2010/01/24 17:44] Svetlana Pleides: okay if Kerm here hadna Navi avatar....
[2010/01/24 17:44] Kermudgeon Baar: i knoow
[2010/01/24 17:44] Svetlana Pleides: we'd be about right porportion I think..
[2010/01/24 17:44] Kermudgeon Baar: i saw one last night
[2010/01/24 17:45] Heihachi Nakamura: we don't believe in stuff like that in my family :p
[2010/01/24 17:45] Cursa Charisma: We had one here earlier
[2010/01/24 17:45] Heihachi Nakamura: my family usually just tell me to get on with it and stop complaining
[2010/01/24 17:45] Cursa Charisma: How about the British cure-all - beer down the pub?
[2010/01/24 17:45] Anastasia Horngold: Cure for tallness?
[2010/01/24 17:45] Cursa Charisma laughs
[2010/01/24 17:45] Cursa Charisma: Yup
[2010/01/24 17:45] Svetlana Pleides: or texas.. tittie bar..
[2010/01/24 17:45] Heihachi Nakamura: beer just makes me worse :p
[2010/01/24 17:45] Cursa Charisma: When you're passed out in the gutter, you're not tall
[2010/01/24 17:46] Allen Kerensky: amen to the Texas Tittie Bar cure
[2010/01/24 17:46] Cursa Charisma: Lead the way, Svetka
[2010/01/24 17:46] Anastasia Horngold snorts. "I suppose not!"
[2010/01/24 17:46] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Allen Kerensky is 1.967236 m (6 ft. 5in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 17:46] Svetlana Pleides: I am not in texas any more :)
[2010/01/24 17:46] Cursa Charisma smiles broadly
[2010/01/24 17:46] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Allen Kerensky is 1.967236 m (6 ft. 5in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height
[2010/01/24 17:47] Heihachi Nakamura: heh, reiko just cheered me up. :)
[2010/01/24 17:47] Cursa Charisma: Gratz, Hei
[2010/01/24 17:47] Heihachi Nakamura: ho ho :p
[2010/01/24 17:47] Cursa Charisma: So Allen and Reiko are about the same height?
[2010/01/24 17:48] Anastasia Horngold: allie looks a smidge taller
[2010/01/24 17:48] Reiko Soyinka: Well, I cheat.
[2010/01/24 17:48] Reiko Soyinka: I have on platform boots with heels.
[2010/01/24 17:48] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'
[2010/01/24 17:48] Cursa Charisma nods
[2010/01/24 17:48] Reiko Soyinka: The pants were a little long.
[2010/01/24 17:48] Titler Of Doom: Kermudgeon Baar needs a new title say /56 to give a new one! <br />[2010/01/24 17:49] Allen Kerensky: must resist retitler <br />[2010/01/24 17:49] Titler Of Doom: Anastasia Horngold has changed Kermudgeon Baar's title. <br />[2010/01/24 17:49] Kermudgeon Baar: hahaha <br />[2010/01/24 17:49] Kermudgeon Baar: thankyo uana <br />[2010/01/24 17:49] Cursa Charisma laughs <br />[2010/01/24 17:49] Allen Kerensky: i usually put something like "Cheap Sex. Ask For Rates." or something. <br />[2010/01/24 17:49] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'. <br />[2010/01/24 17:49] Heihachi Nakamura: last title i set was "pork n beans" on some random girl <br />[2010/01/24 17:49] Cursa Charisma: No, no, Allen, someone *else's* avatar <br />[2010/01/24 17:49] Cursa Charisma: hehe <br />[2010/01/24 17:50] Reiko Soyinka: Whap him, Allie. <br />[2010/01/24 17:50] Allen Kerensky: who, Hei? <br />[2010/01/24 17:50] Allen Kerensky: that only encourages him <br />[2010/01/24 17:50] Cursa Charisma: The voice of experience <br />[2010/01/24 17:50] Cursa Charisma grins <br />[2010/01/24 17:50] Heihachi Nakamura muted a whole sim yesterday, you would be so easy allen :p <br />[2010/01/24 17:50] Allen Kerensky: reminds me of a certain... um... what was he? Sithbaby? DarthWannabe? <br />[2010/01/24 17:50] Anastasia Horngold: k, gang, I'm off to build small furniture. <br />[2010/01/24 17:50] Allen Kerensky: anyway someone that wanted to kill Hei <br />[2010/01/24 17:50] Heihachi Nakamura: see ya <br />[2010/01/24 17:50] Allen Kerensky: so funny <br />[2010/01/24 17:50] Anastasia Horngold smiles. <br />[2010/01/24 17:50] Heihachi Nakamura: oh yeah <br />[2010/01/24 17:51] Kermudgeon Baar: small furniture? <br />[2010/01/24 17:51] Cursa Charisma: Thanks for being here, Anastasia, hope to catch you later at Prosperity <br />[2010/01/24 17:51] Heihachi Nakamura allows a small smile to play over his face :p <br />[2010/01/24 17:51] Cursa Charisma grins <br />[2010/01/24 17:51] Allen Kerensky: the harder he tried, the harder he failed <br />[2010/01/24 17:51] Heihachi Nakamura: he's not doin any killin now <br />[2010/01/24 17:51] Allen Kerensky: was glorious to watch <br />[2010/01/24 17:51] Anastasia Horngold: Nice chatting with you all! <br />[2010/01/24 17:51] Kermudgeon Baar: take care <br />[2010/01/24 17:51] Top Room Sensor v1.02: Anastasia Horngold no longer detected in range of Top Room Sensor 2. <br />[2010/01/24 17:51] Cursa Charisma: Everyone, please let me know if there are speakers or topics you'd like to see and hear here <br />[2010/01/24 17:52] Living in a bunker: Heihachi Nakamura, online RP can become an obsession - keeping perspective is important <br />[2010/01/24 17:52] Allen Kerensky: uh oh <br />[2010/01/24 17:52] Cursa Charisma: And the Cursa & Lex Egyptian size comparison is buyable at L$0 over there, hehe <br />[2010/01/24 17:52] Allen Kerensky: Heihachi on Keeping RP Perspective ... EPIC <br />[2010/01/24 17:52] Heihachi Nakamura: .. <br />[2010/01/24 17:53] Cursa Charisma: Allen, you throwing stones over there? <br />[2010/01/24 17:53] Cursa Charisma makes a rude sound <br />[2010/01/24 17:53] Height Detector (Accurate) - Prim Height: Kermudgeon Baar is 2.310615 m (7 ft. 6in.) tall. (counting shoes) - Prim Height <br />[2010/01/24 17:53] Cursa Charisma grins <br />[2010/01/24 17:53] Allen Kerensky: um, gentle nudges of distant comets maybe... <br />[2010/01/24 17:53] Allen Kerensky: if they drop somewhere inhabited ... welll <br />[2010/01/24 17:54] Svetlana Pleides: one thing I want to say.. is more an issue of adjusting single avatar or shape parameter <br />[2010/01/24 17:54] Allen Kerensky: yeah <br />[2010/01/24 17:54] Cursa Charisma listens to Svetka <br />[2010/01/24 17:54] Forcing Ground Sit <br />[2010/01/24 17:54] Svetlana Pleides: if you adjsut just size.. you do not look right. <br />[2010/01/24 17:54] Reiko Soyinka: correct. <br />[2010/01/24 17:54] Cursa Charisma: Yes, as Kerm is discovering, one slider affects others <br />[2010/01/24 17:55] Cursa Charisma: He is now more squat in shape <br />[2010/01/24 17:55] Svetlana Pleides: nyet, that is problem it does not affect others.. <br />[2010/01/24 17:55] Cursa Charisma: You mean, "Size" doesn't work proportionally <br />[2010/01/24 17:55] Cursa Charisma: Right <br />[2010/01/24 17:55] Svetlana Pleides: and a single size parameter...does nto adjstu enough <br />[2010/01/24 17:55] Allen Kerensky: you have to re-proportion <br />[2010/01/24 17:55] Kermudgeon Baar: right <br />[2010/01/24 17:55] Svetlana Pleides: watche my head <br />[2010/01/24 17:55] Kermudgeon Baar: i will reapply my shape <br />[2010/01/24 17:55] Cursa Charisma: Yes, I had to adjust a dozen sliders last night after getting Cursa's "Size" right <br />[2010/01/24 17:55] Cursa Charisma: Head size is the biggie <br />[2010/01/24 17:56] Svetlana Pleides: da.. I need to do calucations.. figure out best way to scale down. <br />[2010/01/24 17:56] Svetlana Pleides: you see my head is same size. <br />[2010/01/24 17:56] Cursa Charisma: Trial and error, and save the good results <br />[2010/01/24 17:56] Cursa Charisma: Akasha and I helped each other last night, and it worked really well <br />[2010/01/24 17:56] Svetlana Pleides: well I have idea to test out.. <br />[2010/01/24 17:57] Kermudgeon Baar: thats's what she said <br />[2010/01/24 17:57] Reiko Soyinka: Head size is going to be a problem because it depends on several things...including general racial genetics. <br />[2010/01/24 17:57] Cursa Charisma: LOL, "Jerusalem" on the stream! <br />[2010/01/24 17:57] Cursa Charisma: Your de facto national anthem, Hachi <br />[2010/01/24 17:57] Heihachi Nakamura: hm <br />[2010/01/24 17:57] Heihachi Nakamura: *listens* :p <br />[2010/01/24 17:57] Heihachi Nakamura: ugh <br />[2010/01/24 17:57] Heihachi Nakamura: wait...wait... <br />[2010/01/24 17:57] Heihachi Nakamura: no <br />[2010/01/24 17:58] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male' <br />[2010/01/24 17:59] Heihachi Nakamura: damn clockwork orange scene stuck in my head <br />[2010/01/24 17:59] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'. <br />[2010/01/24 17:59] Allen Kerensky: all right, I'm back off to the wilderness <br />[2010/01/24 17:59] Cursa Charisma: And GBU! <br />[2010/01/24 17:59] Allen Kerensky: waves <br />[2010/01/24 17:59] Cursa Charisma: Peace, Allie <br />[2010/01/24 17:59] Svetlana Pleides: have fun Allen.. <br />[2010/01/24 17:59] Reiko Soyinka: This is the second spaghetti western. <br />[2010/01/24 17:59] Cursa Charisma: I'll be over to shoot that troll again soon <br />[2010/01/24 17:59] Heihachi Nakamura: lol <br />[2010/01/24 17:59] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male' <br />[2010/01/24 17:59] Heihachi Nakamura: i might have a go too <br />[2010/01/24 17:59] Cursa Charisma: The ultimate spaghetti Western <br />[2010/01/24 17:59] Top Room Sensor v1.02: Allen Kerensky no longer detected in range of Top Room Sensor 2. <br />[2010/01/24 17:59] Cursa Charisma: Weber is great ,Hachi <br />[2010/01/24 17:59] Heihachi Nakamura: often use the MP40 on trolls :p <br />[2010/01/24 18:00] Reiko Soyinka: The comic one... <br />[2010/01/24 18:00] HUDDLES EZ Animator Deluxe v1.3.0: Could not find animation '*AW* Stand Arms Folded - Male'. <br />[2010/01/24 18:00] Reiko Soyinka: For A Few Dollars More. <br />[2010/01/24 18:00] Heihachi Nakamura: the good the bad and the ugly :p <br />[2010/01/24 18:00] Cursa Charisma: Yes <br />[2010/01/24 18:00] Heihachi Nakamura: try and beat it, you won't <br />[2010/01/24 18:00] Cursa Charisma: Definitely the greatest <br />[2010/01/24 18:00] Cursa Charisma: And the music <br />[2010/01/24 18:00] Reiko Soyinka: pffft <br />[2010/01/24 18:00] Svetlana Pleides: I need to RL a bit.. be back soon.. <br />[2010/01/24 18:00] Reiko Soyinka: matter of opinion. <br />[2010/01/24 18:00] Heihachi Nakamura: ooh <br />[2010/01/24 18:01] Kermudgeon Baar: ok svet <br />[2010/01/24 18:01] Cursa Charisma: OK, Svetka, thanks for coming by <br />[2010/01/24 18:01] Heihachi Nakamura: black and white martial arts film on <br />[2010/01/24 18:01] Cursa Charisma: "Ingrown Toenail of the Dragon", Hachi? <br />[2010/01/24 18:01] Cursa Charisma grins <br />[2010/01/24 18:01] Heihachi Nakamura: oh damn it's in colour <br />[2010/01/24 18:02] Top Room Sensor v1.02: Svetlana Pleides no longer detected in range of Top Room Sensor 2. <br />[2010/01/24 18:04] Cursa Charisma: Thank you all for coming out, I need to go get cleaned up before the dance. 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